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  1. from: brewpoll.com [Visitor]
    Super fast, efficient, and kind of consistent oxygenation
    A cheap and easy way to aerate and oxygenate wort.
  2. § Ralph said on :
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    Interesting experiments. I'd love to hear your results when you try this with wort. I wonder if gravity plays a large role in oxygen uptake by the liquid.

    Quick question, you said:

    I think the head space only holds enough O2 to do about 6-7 ppm, so I did it twice one minute each.

    Between each 1 minute treatment, did you just let it sit or slosh it about?

    Cheers.
  3. § Mike Flaminio® Email said on :
    Thanks for you comments.

    What I did for just aeration, I stirred for a minute. remove the stirrer, pulled a sample, and got my results, then went back. It seems with that, O2 diffused into the head space to finish the job. Other times I went for 2 minutes and didn't get the target 8 ppm, but removing the mixer and restarting it got me there.
  4. § Kai Email said on :
    Mike,

    Great experiment. It really shows that only little O2 is needed to get to 8 or 12 ppm DO. I don't have a DO meter (certainly wish I had ;) )or a flow meter on my O2 system, but may want to make a mark on the regulator nob that allows me to keep the setting the same everytime I oxygenate.

    I (had to) run some numbers and 10ppm O2 in 17l of wort (avarage fill for a 5 gal carboy) require 170mg of O2. At atmospheric pressure, this is about 240 ml (~1 pint) of pure O2 (molaric volume = 22 l/mol; molaric mass = 16g/mol) and a little over 1qt of air. The 2 qt of head space in the fermenter do seem good enough to get to 8 ppm since not all the O2 will end up in the wort.

    I like the fact that your experiments are in line with a quick calculation of the O2 volume needed.

    When you say 10 psi O2 into the fermenter, did you pressurize the fermenter or did you just hold the hose into the opening, assuming that the pressure will lead to a particular flow rate of O2?

    Kai
  5. § Mike Flaminio® Email said on :
    Kai -- interesting numbers with your calculation.

    As far as adding the O2, no the the carboy isn't pressurized. That would be bad. What I am doing is I'm setting my O2 to 5 psi, then I just stick the hose into the neck of the carboy for 1 second, or what I call a whiff. As I mentioned, it seems 2 seconds might be closer to ball-park 12-14 ppm.

  6. § BeerSmith Email said on :
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    I love this idea! I've been looking for a good way to oxygenate quickly without having a separate O2 system. Very innovative.
  7. § Mike Flaminio® Email said on :
    Thanks for your comments. I'm thrilled with this solution. I've been doing a lot of weekday brewing, so come pitching time, I'm pretty worn out. It's really nice to have a fast simple solution to get both the fermenter and me to bed.

  8. § Andy Email said on :
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    Very nice experiment. I just thought I'd throw in a little input. I'm a UC-Davis educated brewer working in the industry...and yes we have crazy in-line oxygenators with meters, that we can control real-time....but there's a well-kept and often not believed secret to all this: use sterile air. Because of the law of partial pressures, you can only hit a max of 8 ppm with air. You can bubble it like crazy for hours, and still have 8 ppm. It just happens that 8 ppm is also ideal for most worts....less than that is not good for the yeast growth, more than that, and you can start oxidizing your wort, leading to stale cardboard flavors, or stressing your yeast, causing it to make other off-flavors, acetaldehyde for example. So my advice, for consistent aeration, use sterile air.

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