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Sep 03

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I got this one in from our State Fair. Most my other sheets are pretty good, but this one was freaken ridiculous. The second judge on this beer was pretty bad too, but this one takes the cake.

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  1. § DJ @ Fermentarium Email said on : 09/03/08 @ 11:39
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    It might be a good idea for others to publish bad score sheets as well. It might encourage judges to provide more feedback, especially if some judges get reputations. :)
  2. § Lee Koehler Email said on : 09/03/08 @ 16:35
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    I'd give that beer a 37 based on the comments. If I were you, I'd increase the boldness by about 13%.

    And to think, I wrote more words in my stupid joke than this judge did.
  3. § TeacherPatti Email said on : 09/03/08 @ 20:26
    The flavor was bold, but the mouthfeel had to be bolder. I don't know why I find this confusing, but I do.

    This reminds me of when I ask students, "What did you think of (fill in the blank)?" and they said, "It was good." Grrr.....
  4. § Michael Shannon Email said on : 09/04/08 @ 08:51
    This should never happen, but occasionally does. It looks like the judge checked the "apprentice" box, which technically means he took the BJCP exam and failed to get at least 60%. Also, there is no email address which is a major no-no. It's possible (likely) that this person has no judging experience whatsoever, and is not part of the BJCP as there is no BJCP number which he would have had he taken the exam.

    Publishing score sheets, as another commenter suggested, is certainly the right of any entrant, but it does little good.

    The correct way to handle this situation, and one I suggest you follow is:

    Email your regional BJCP representative. You'll find them listed here: http://www.bjcp.org/officers.php

    Copy Gordon Strong, president of the BJCP, as well as the competition organizer.

    Believe me, the BJCP does NOT advocate judging in this manner. Organizers are responsible for providing accurate and professional judging, and the great majority go out of their way to do this. Sometimes it doesn't happen though, and there needs to be professional follow-up to find out why and see to it that it doesn't happen again.

    Finally, study, take the exam and start judging! Most organizers have difficulty finding suitably qualified judges for competitions. If you feel that the quality of judging is lacking, get out there and do some yourself!

    Michael Shannon
    BJCP Certified Judge
  5. § Mike Flaminio® Email said on : 09/04/08 @ 21:30
    Michael,

    Thanks for your comments. To clarify, technically an apprentice is also someone who just took the exam but hasn't received their score. I'm an apprentice right now as I took the exam in May. If I get 70, I already have enough points to be certified. Either way though, an apprentice should know better. Also, it took me a couple months to get my judge ID and I did judge post test and without an ID. Basically the BJCP time lines leave a lot of room for a lot of scenarios, and I think we simply have to take people at their word.

    I have discussed with the judging director and apparently he is well experienced in the beer scene. Not sure what the deal was. I assume the director will remember if he wants to judge again.
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